Could Pastor Rick Warren's Treason on Traditional Marriage Be Connected to His Membership in the Council on Foreign Relations?

In offering an explanation on why the Evangelical Christian, mega-church Pastor Rick Warren has disavowed his prior support for California Proposition 8, which reinstituted traditional marriage in the State, Michael Erickson focused on the sin involved, when he wrote as follows: “Perchance as the added publicity, which is likely to emerge from this disavowing of the struggle for traditional marriage, sells more copies of The Purpose Driven Life, Pastor Rick Warren may have the material comforts in home and money to think upon the matter of pleasing men at the expense of God.” Still, there is a secular dimension to this story.

 

Traditional marriage is the bedrock of stable, family life; and families provide a cultural restraint on the State, in that they provide an identity to children separate from the State, one that instills in them a love for their homestead and the liberties needed to protect the same from the encroachments of government. There is a reason why tyrannts, whenever they acquire power, undertake to limit or to destroy family life altogether, sometimes by literally foisting children away from their parents at an early age. It is because they want to rear a new generation of wards of the State, thus obliterating over time the memory of freedom and the desire for anything other than government sanctioned self-indulgence.

 

Just as traditional marriage is a restraint on the State, so is it a restraint on globalism. The exclusivity implicit in traditional marriage, and its focus on rearing children, focuses said populace on protecting what is “theirs” from what is “foreign.” It creates the spirit first of family, then of tribe, and finally of nation; by contrast, the very idea of the global system, where there are no borders between cultures, will be viewed with the eyes of suspicion, if not outright hostility, by those who uphold a traditional view on marriage.

 

Thus, the Statist and the Globalist have a common enemy: traditional marriage, especially as it focuses on an exclusive relationship between a man and a woman for the purposes of conceiving and rearing children. From their perspective, what better than to denigate such a cultural ideal altogether, by replacing traditional marriage with a modern definition, one that sees “marriage” as unrelated to children or even commitment?

 

As it is naturally impossible for any homosexual union to create children, “gay marriage” serves this new definition, by separating the very idea of “marriage” from conceiving and rearing children. If there is any doubt, then consider the situation in Sweden, where such a new definition came into the law awhile ago. Since “gay marriage” became legal within Sweden, younger, heterosexual couples have abandoned marriage in droves for a lifestyle of “serial monogamy” without serious commitment, where the norm is for children to be “raised” by a blur of “parents” coming and going. Indeed, in that system, it takes a village to raise a child; and the Swedish nanny state is only so happy to oblige with its services.

 

Rick Warren has acknowledged his membership in the Council on Foreign Relations, one of the primary spearheads of modern globalism, as discerned in his response to a question from World Net Daily on an unrelated issue. That article is the first one reprinted below.

 

Then, below the World Net Daily article, I have reprinted an editorial found presently on the Council on Foreign Relations website, as written by CFR Senior Fellow Max Boot. In this editorial, Mr. Boot argues that defending traditional marriage indeed is a lost cause. I cannot but think that his rationale gives justification for those “conservatives” within said CFR who then consistently oppose amending our federal and state Constitutions, or doing much of anything really, to safeguard traditional marriage as our cultural and legal norm. After all, if we follow the example of men like Rick Warren and either do nothing against the onslaught, or even worse disavow ever having endorsed in the first place a traditional marriage initiative, then are we not helping by omission in the emergence of a new world order? Is not Rick Warren’s recent step in fact in support of the larger aims of the CFR?

 

On another note, should we be surprised at this affiliation? I have no doubt as to the skill and talent of Rick Warren in preaching and in marketing; but there are many preachers in Evangelical Christianity, and within the Churches generally, who are similarly talented. I cannot but think that the enormous success of his book, and the marketing coup of having both of the Presidential candidates in the 2008 election appear at his mega-church for his highly publicized forum, had something at least to do with such affiliations. If so, then we may presume that the price to be paid for selling ones soul will include discarding even as fundamental a Christian precept as traditional marriage. 

 

Mega-Pastor Rick Warren Admits He’s In CFR, by Joseph Farah (WND) 

 

Rick Warren, the superstar mega-church pastor and bestselling author of ''The Purpose Driven Life,'' had a Damascus Road experience last week- and like Saul of Tarsus, one of the after-effects appears to be blindness.

Warren went to Syria and could find no persecution of Christians. He could find no persecution of Jews. He could find no evidence of extremism. He could find no evidence of the sponsorship of terrorism.

Despite the temporary loss of vision that prevented him from seeing any evil in the totalitarian police state, Warren's hearing was apparently not affected-for his ears were tickled by what he heard
and apparently accepted lock, stock and barrel from the second-generation dictator, Bashar Assad, and his state-approved mufti.

But that's not the story Warren is telling-at least not in the official press releases he is sending out from Rwanda in response to my confrontations with him last week in which I accused him of betraying his own country in a hostile foreign land and of being a propaganda tool of the Islamo-fascist regime in Damascus.

In fact, after I called him out last week in my column, Warren e-mailed me claiming to have been misquoted by the official Syrian news agency.

''Joseph, why didn't you contact me first and discover the fact that I said nothing of the sort?'' he pleaded. ''The trip was a favor to my next door neighbor, had nothing to do with policy, and was done with the State Department's knowledge-who told us to expect exactly what Syria did-a PR blast. I don't pretend to be a diplomat. I'm a pastor who just gets invited places.''

I pointed out to Warren that WND had indeed attempted to contact him about his trip. No one from his Saddleback Church ever returned our calls the day the story broke.

''I'm sure since you were warned in advance by the State Department that you took the precaution of recording your own words,'' I suggested in my response. ''We look forward to seeing the transcripts
or hearing the recordings.''

I also asked if he could respond specifically to the words put in his mouth by the Syrian news agency. And lastly I suggested that he should have ''counseled with me, or other people knowledgeable about the Middle East before doing so much damage with your reckless trip.''

I really didn't expect to hear back from Warren-but, a few minutes later, I did, with an absolutely stunning retort.

He let me know he is a close friend of President Bush ''and many, if not most, of the generals at the Pentagon.''

He also told me he did not tape anything while in Syria, ''because it was a courtesy call, like I do in every country.''

Warren explained that he had also counseled with the National Security Council and the White House, as well as the State Department, before his little courtesy call for a neighbor.

''In fact,'' Warren added, ''as a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and Oxford Analytica, I might know as much about the Middle East as you.''

He continued: ''I hope you'll not choose to believe Syrian propaganda even though, as you pointed out at the start of your article, you've been wanting to criticize me for some time. In spite of your rush to
judgment, I think you write great, insightful columns. You are almost batting 1,000.''

No sooner had I received this surprising response from Warren, I also got an e-mail providing a link to a YouTube video of Rick Warren in Syria explaining how great the Assad regime treats Christians and Jews and how Damascus ''does not permit extremism of any kind.''

Not one to let lies go unchallenged, I wrote back to Warren with a link to the YouTube video: ''If you didn't tape anything, what's this? Do you really believe Syria does not allow extremism of any kind?
There are more terrorist organizations based in Syria than anywhere else in the world!''

It might be that Rick Warren, deep in the bush of Rwanda, never received those last questions, because he never responded-at least not in the last three days.

He did, however, within minutes make sure the YouTube video he recorded independent of his meetings with the Syrian brown shirts was removed from the network. Vanished. Kaput. Sterilized. Cleansed.

Stay tuned for more on Rick Warren's ''Agenda-Driven Life'' in the coming days-sponsored, of course, by the Council on Foreign Relations.

The Right Can’t Win This Fight, by Max Boot (CFR)

For decades, social conservatives have been fighting and losing culture wars. Contraception and abortion -- once taboo topics -- have been enshrined into law. The rates of premarital sex, out-of-wedlock births and divorce have soared since the 1950s (though lately most of these indexes have leveled off or declined slightly). In school, prayer is out; sex education is in. On TV, characters used to say "gee whiz" and sleep in twin beds; now they curse as if they had Tourette's syndrome and flash skin as if they were Gypsy Rose Lee.

This doesn't mean that America is in cultural decline; no one who saw the response to 9/11 can think we are soft or decadent. It does mean there is little mystery about how the latest culture war -- over gay marriage -- will turn out. Opponents of same-sex marriages may have most of the public on their side for now, but they've already all but lost this battle.

How do I know? Simply by looking at the arguments being advanced by both sides. Advocates of same-sex marriage speak in the powerful language of civil rights and liken their cause to that of African Americans fighting anti-miscegenation laws in years past. And what do opponents say in response? Once upon a time, the case would have been open and shut: Sodomy is a sin, period. Many people may still believe that, but that's no longer a tenable argument in our secularized politics.

The U.S. Supreme Court struck down anti-sodomy laws last year. The Episcopal Church has appointed an openly gay bishop. Many newspapers carry the equivalent of wedding announcements for gays. Same-sex kisses, once shockingly daring, are now almost as common on TV as commercials for Levitra or Prozac. Given this seismic cultural shift, anyone who makes avowedly moral arguments against homosexuality now gets treated the same way homosexuals were treated only a few years ago -- as a sex-mad pervert.

Traditionalists have tried to put forward various nonmoral arguments against gay marriage, but none is particularly convincing. They argue, first, that we shouldn't tamper with thousands of years of tradition that holds that marriage is between a man and a woman. But 141 years ago we tampered with an equally old tradition: slavery. Their second argument is the slippery slope -- first gay marriage gets legalized, then polygamy, pederasty, incest and who knows what. But this kind of reductio ad absurdum can be applied to just about anything. If liquor is legal for adults, why not for children? Society always draws the line somewhere.

The final and strongest argument of gay marriage opponents: Don't let courts or a handful of mayors change the law on their own. Let's debate this democratically. Fine. But that will only delay the legalization of gay marriage; it won't stop it in most places. The Massachusetts judges whose diktat led to gay marriages in that state starting this week aren't operating in outer space. They are only slightly ahead of the societal consensus, just as the Supreme Court was only slightly ahead of the societal consensus when it legalized abortion in 1973. Nowadays, no matter what the court says, there isn't a state in the union that would illegalize abortion (though some might pass more restrictions than the justices would allow). In a few years, that may be true of gay marriage as well.

Faced with virtually inevitable defeat, Republicans would be wise not to expend too much political capital pushing for a gay marriage amendment to the Constitution. They will only make themselves look "intolerant" to soccer moms whose views on this subject, as on so many others, will soon be as liberal as elite opinion already is.

The good news, from the conservative point of view, is that it's hard to imagine that legalizing gay marriage will make much difference in the lives of most people. Certainly it will have considerably less corrosive effect on society than the prevalence of divorce and out-of-wedlock childbearing.

If conservatives are worried about destigmatizing homosexuality, that's already happening. If they're worried this will lead to hordes of new "recruits" for the "other team" (as "Seinfeld" put it), that's not going to happen. Homosexuality always has been and always will be the preference of a tiny minority; most of us are biologically hard-wired for heterosexuality.

Since the ultimate concern of conservatives is to preserve the institution of marriage, they would probably be better off caving on gay marriage rather than acceding to the most popular alternative: civil union. Gay marriages won't affect straights. But if civil union laws were to catch on, as Jonathan Rauch argues in his provocative new book, "Gay Marriage," many heterosexuals would probably eschew marriage altogether. That would be worse for society than seeing Rosie O'Donnell get hitched.

 

 
 
 

  

Comment from Michael Erickson Re. Max Boot's Viewpoint

Sadly, I agree with what Mr. Boot has to say about the tenor of our culture, though I think that he is wrong in saying that the change has not softened or made more decadent our culture. While the unity of purpose in the aftermath of the attacks on September 11th undoubtedly showed that we could, as a nation, indeed rise to the occasion as needed, that is not a particularly good indication of cultural resolve. A deranged misfit after all will straighten his posture if confronted by a madman, who is intent upon his imminent demise. What is more telling is how we act, and what we regard as acceptable boundaries of behavior, within normal times; and by such a perspective, it is clear that we are descending into the abyss of moral relativism, irresponsibility, and excessive self-indulgence. In so many aspects of life, from the political, to the economic, and to the personal, we are seeing people refuse to say that much of anything is objectively wrong, except what we still agree upon as the most heinous of behaviors; we are seeing people break their bonds on the lamest of pretexts, even when solemn vows have been made, because of the thought that the grass might be greener somewhere else; and we are seeing people ever more willing to feed at the trough of their neighbor's wealth, and circumscribe the liberty that his neighbor may enjoy over his own land and person, just for whatever makes them feel "empowered" in the moment. The demise of traditional marriage, with its focus on an exclusive, committed, lifelong partnership for the sustaining of a family life, feeds into these behaviors; indeed, in the broken families of the past, we now are seeing new generations that do not know how to be otherwise. Thus, contrary to the assertion of Mr. Boot that "gay marriages won't affect straights," it is evident that what we see and hold up as our norms really does affect how we act on many other aspects of our lives. Cultural icons, like traditional marriage, do matter in how we act politically, economically, and personally. Of course, what he has to say fits in nicely with the larger objective of the CFR in building a new world order, one that replaces traditional family units, and the nations that protect them, with "alternative family units" and "regions without borders" that cannot but create the future wards of the welfare-warfare superstate, because by doing nothing to maintain traditional marriage as the cultural norm we help in the passing of the "old order" for one that is "new." Indeed, there is no greater aid to tyranny than the apathy of those who in their minds and hearts should know better.

A Letter from a Friend Re. Rick Warren and the CFR

The RNI article on Warren and the CFR sounded very much like GK Chesterton when he discussed how big business interests really resent family and marriage. Distributism is really a 'family-centered' politic; and your argument that globalism is not only intrinsically opposed to the nation but to the family and those ethics, which gird the family as an institution, are poignant. I think people have a hard time connecting socially conservative causes like "divorce" or "gay marriage" to economic matters. But this article did a good job, in the line of Chesterton's own thought.

A Letter from Michael Erickson to A Second Friend

A Friend asks Michael Erickson, who is the Chairman of both the Sonoma County Republican Party and the Republicans for the National Interest, how his comments about Rick Warren and the CFR have anything to do with recruiting conservative candidates in Sonoma County. Michael Erickson then responds: The issues related to Rick Warren and the Council on Foreign Relations do not relate at all, from what I may tell, to the recruitment of conservative candidates in Sonoma County. They are not meant to be related. It is important to understand that I wear several hats, including within the political realm. In my capacity as Chairman of the Sonoma County Republican Central Committee, I have the honor and responsibility of focusing on the matter to which you have referred. In the course of an average day, I spend a lot of time and energy in tasks directly pertaining to local party building and candidate recruitment; and whenever I have the occasion to write in that rather specific capacity, I do so in our monthly Sonoma County Republican Party Newsletter, that goes out over our Sonoma County Republican Party email list. I also write as the Chairman of the Sonoma County Republican Party in editorials in local newspapers, that rarely will be offered to me, or more frequently in letters to the editor. I am also Chairman of the Republicans for the National Interest, which is totally separate in organization and purpose from the Sonoma County Republican Party. Such article to which you are referring is a piece that I wrote for the Republicans for the National Interest website. As such, it has nothing to do with the tasks that I perform for the local party organization at all and furthermore does not necessarily represent its position. That is why, as you should notice, I send out all such emails from my personal email address, rather than ever sending them from the "Sonoma County Republican Party." It is a customary internet protocol for a message sent from a personal email address to reflect only the views of the sender, in his own private capacity, while a message sent from an organizational email address (such as the "Sonoma County Republican Party") represents the views of that organization. In order to make it even more clear, whenever I send out an email in my capacity as the Chairman of the Republicans for the National Interest, I sign my name with that title; whereas, if and when I send out an email in my separate capacity as the Chairman of the Sonoma County Republican Party, I sign my name with that other title. I hope that this clarifies the situation. I have included you in my personal Republicans for the National Interest emails, because I have been under the presumption that, even if and when we do not agree on some matter, you nevertheless are interested in considering the subject matters about which I usually write in this capacity. If not, then let me know; and I shall refrain from sending you my personal Republicans for the National Interest emails in the future. Regardless, it is important to see that, when I speak in the manner to which in fact you are now referring, I am doing so as a private individual (since Republicans for the National Interest is not a legal organization, like an official political party, but rather exists just as a loose association of likeminded writers and activists) rather than as Chairman of the Sonoma County Republican Party. Having said all of this, I shall add as a postscript that, to the extent my comments in this private capacity help in inspiring conservatives of likemind to view that in fact they have a kindred soul in the Republican Party, then in an indirect manner my private comments on such issues as Rick Warren and the CFR may be helpful in local matters. From my own experience, activists are more likely to be recruited into party building efforts, or into work on behalf of a candidate, if they identify some issues of commonality with the individual in fact recruiting them. Simple party identification alone will not suffice, for the most part. As conservatives may find a kindred soul in me on a totally unrelated issue like Rick Warren, they may be then open to working with me for a local issue or candidate, just because of that personal association. Indeed, I have seen this occur, as my former outspoken efforts on behalf of California Proposition 8 helped in forging relationships with some people, who now are active in the local party on matters unrelated to traditional marriage. Again, I shall admit readily that this is only an indirect byproduct of such commentaries; and even then the benefit accrues more in the area of recruiting volunteers, than in recruiting candidates.